Pact or Panic: Can Migration Be Controlled? The UN migration compact spells radical 5 months ago   26:01

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An intergovernmental conference is being held in the Moroccan capital, Marrakesh in December, to adopt the UN-sponsored global compact for safe, orderly and regular migration. The US and several other countries reject the pact, arguing that it paves the way for more mass migration. Are they right?
Guests: Ana Maria Álvarez (Migration Hub), Edith Kimani (DW), Matthew Karnitschnig (Politico)

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Reiner Wilhelms-Tricarico
It’s kind of silly to hear again this unison tale that Europe needs more immigrants to fix the over aging problem. Europeans don’t have enough children? How about these societies do something about the affordability of children and their education. And how about stopping the idiotic campaign that depicts women who want to raise children instead of a career as uneducated and not woke enough. The German word for this is Menschenverachtung - disregard of humanity. Why should we erode the fabric of existing culture and replace it by some utopian multi-culturalism that most people simply reject instinctively, especially many migrants from Islamic cultures?
This whole project is a disregard of humanity: because it will fail badly due to the backlash that it creates. This because the social safety net has been destructed by too much privatisation and austerity, which has resulted in a destruction of the middle class and deprivation of large part of the working class. In part for that reason low income people feel indeed threatened by mass immigration, and it’s absurd to try to fix that by re-education and language policing. You can’t expect much empathy for suffering strangers who come as refugees if there is already an obvious lack of empathy for the too large number of citizens who fell through the cracks because of austerity programs. The result may be just the opposite of what this program tries to achieve. It will make it even harder to allow regular refugees to enter Europe because of a strengthening xenophobia. And it is a completely delusional and actually dangerous idea to try to overcome xenophobic feelings by making them basically illegal - because that’s where things are going these days. Currently it’s even considered a sign of Naziism when Germans use the word Deutsches Volk. The word Volk (people) is supposed to be eradicated and replaced by the PC word Staatsbürger (citizen), because it is believed that Volk and the adjective völkisch (populistic) have directly something to do with the German Reich. And of course, it’s not far from there to the reflexive accusation of anti-semitism, the favourite utility label that can stop any discourse.
doug ridgway
Women want to distribute the resources. Fine and dandy. In that you could tell what family they belong to.
Secondly week men listen to all women and want nothing but to please them. Third this is all our fault. We can fix this.
Yuck! Hail to all the nations refusing to participate in this cultural suicide.
fynes leigh
For "Populists" read Sinners; the disease religion modernism-sometimes called political correctness-although it is IN FACT a religion-set of related undoubted beliefs assumptions presumptions and norms, tends to be bossily moralistic and Worse, seeks to make itself the official or compulsory religion, and, like all religions it has its sinners heresies and sacred cows.NB. The word 'religion does not *necessarily* connote or imply an attachment to any idea of what-is-called god. The religions socialism wimminism, sewerism and AGW_ism make no overt references to any idea of god, but are all undoubtedly sets of related undoubted beliefs assumptions presumptions and norms and are thus religions.
Joe Smeeth
Europe does not need migrants who cannot assimilate fully, culturally and racially, with the over arching culture. A growing minority population will only cause trouble in the future.
Joe Smeeth
Migration is not a right. Immigration is not the right solution to a lack of working aged citizens and it allows the government to ignore their responsibility to promote family and culture.
White people are just scared of a brown world. They dont want to give People of Color a chance at success in a better world.
So DW, where was the anti migration side of the argument in this debate? You talked about how a few countries have decided to not be part of the UN pact on migration and yet you couldn’t find anyone who opposes the UN pact? Come on. It’s hardly a debate when the 3 people you’ve got on are just engaging in a circle jerk. Have somebody on that doesn’t feed the confirmation bias of the host and by extension DW
Alex Perez
As a migrant myself this angers me. I migrated legally and have made every effort to learn the language, educate myself, get a job and adapt to the culture of my new nation and these people want to give everyone a free pass?
Harvard have released a study that asserts the more multicultural a society is, the less social cohesion. Furthermore, extensive migration lowers wages all round. Thus, socially and economically, massive migration is not tenable. What's more, on average people from the third world have five babies, whereas your ethnic European has one... this is guaranteed to become a white-genocide if this continues. I thought protecting indigenous peoples' land was moral? Demographics are destiny.
Look at Japan, they automated everything to the point where they don't need unskilled labourers. That's the future, not masses of migrants living in poverty, in slums, and ghettos, and tent cities.
Appalled ByFurries
Migration is NOT a human right.
Abominable Snowman
Meanwhile another German girl is dead with a Kenyan migrant already in custody...
Migration will be controlled once the right ppl are in power
U will all be going home soon
Lol the Hondurans went home. They gave up.
That’s exactly why migrants are going to be deported once populists win
We don’t want migrants. And it hasn’t always been a thing. Germany has always been a Germanic nation.
Migration will always be on the move just not to Europe lol. Just as it doesn’t go to China or Israel
Edmund West
Migration is the fastest way to eliminate poverty because no one goes to the trouble of migrating to countries with lower wages.
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